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Best game so far - EASILY
Sxf 20 March 2005 08:01:59
	Wake vs West Virginia WOW. Big play after big play. No one's losing this one; someone's going to have to WIN it.
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Marty McMahone 20 March 2005 08:25:54 [ permanent link ]
	"SXF" <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1111291319.045221.150490@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...> Wake vs West Virginia> WOW.> Big play after big play. No one's losing this one; someone's going to> have to WIN it. It was a great game. W. Virginia did just take the game away. They made the plays when they needed to over and over. Got to say, though, that block by the Wake player at the end of the first OT was a thing of beauty. Shame it ends up being for naught. Marty>
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George W . Harris 20 March 2005 08:41:00 [ permanent link ]
	"SXF" <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote: :Wake vs West Virginia : :WOW. : :Big play after big play. No one's losing this one; someone's going to :have to WIN it. No, Skip Prosser lost it by sending a 52.5% free throw shooter to the line for a techical. Oh, and for never bothering to teach his team how to play defense. -- I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV! George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'.
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Mike Harmon 20 March 2005 08:48:33 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-03-20, George W Harris <gharrus@mundsprung.com> wrote:> "SXF" <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote:> :Wake vs West Virginia>:>:WOW.>:>:Big play after big play. No one's losing this one; someone's going to>:have to WIN it.> No, Skip Prosser lost it by sending a 52.5% free > throw shooter to the line for a techical. Oh, and for never > bothering to teach his team how to play defense. Defense was definitely what killed them. They just never got a stop. For a long stretch in, I think, the second overtime, the closest they came to a stop was West Virginia only hitting one free throw, getting the rebound off the second, and missing a shot that Wake finally rebounded. -- email: mike@hlclabs.com
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Navin 20 March 2005 10:57:41 [ permanent link ]
	Mike Harmon wrote:> On 2005-03-20, George W Harris <gharrus@mundsprung.com> wrote:> "SXF" <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote:>> :Wake vs West Virginia>>:>>:WOW.>>:>>:Big play after big play. No one's losing this one; someone's going to>>:have to WIN it.>> No, Skip Prosser lost it by sending a 52.5% free >>throw shooter to the line for a techical. Oh, and for never >>bothering to teach his team how to play defense.> Defense was definitely what killed them. They just never got a stop. For > a long stretch in, I think, the second overtime, the closest they came to > a stop was West Virginia only hitting one free throw, getting the rebound > off the second, and missing a shot that Wake finally rebounded. Well they did get a stop at the end of regulation/OT. It's as if they could do it if they really concentrated. Of course the defense did break down before Eric Williams got that nice block. -- reverse email to reply
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Charles Beauchamp 20 March 2005 11:13:36 [ permanent link ]
	If no one lost it does this mean that West Virginia is in the Sweet Sixteen, but Wake Forest is in the Door to Twenty Four? v/r Beau
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Sxf 20 March 2005 11:16:15 [ permanent link ]
	Got to say, though, that block by the Wake player at the end of the first OT> was a thing of beauty. Shame it ends up being for naught. Yes, it was; I totally jumped up and shouted when it happened, just because it was so amazing. My brackets are f**ked now, but oh well - I love upsets.
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Archibald Q . Leachington 20 March 2005 16:46:33 [ permanent link ]
	On 19 Mar 2005 23:16:15 -0800, in rec.sport.basketball.college "SXF" <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote: Got to say, though, that block by the Wake player at the end of the>first OT>> was a thing of beauty. Shame it ends up being for naught.> Yes, it was; I totally jumped up and shouted when it happened, just>because it was so amazing.> My brackets are f**ked now, but oh well - I love upsets. I love upsets, but then again, I loved the plague. "I don't look at myself as a basketball coach; I look at myself as a leader who happens to coach basketball."--Coach K.
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Donnie Barnes 20 March 2005 18:00:50 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 20 Mar, SXF wrote:> Wake vs West Virginia> WOW.> Big play after big play. No one's losing this one; someone's going to> have to WIN it. Well, I'd say WV only hitting two of their last four free throws in regulation was almost "losing" it, but it obviously didn't happen that way. I agree, though, great game. WV was really impressive. --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes http://www.donniebarnes.com 879. V.
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StephenJ 20 March 2005 20:58:34 [ permanent link ]
	My brackets are f**ked now, but oh well - I love upsets.> I love upsets, but then again, I loved the plague. Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney overall. The real "winner" of an upset is usually the high seed that now gets to play cinderella in the next round instead of a tough opponent. And usually a true cinderella only has one magic bullet in her gun. -- I do not think the United States would come to an end if we lost our power to declare an Act of Congress void. I do think the Union would be imperiled if we could not make that declaration as to the laws of the several States. - Oliver Wendell Holmes, on the SCOTUS
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James Schrumpf 20 March 2005 21:43:28 [ permanent link ]
	How do you prefer your martini, Mr. "StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com>? Shaken, or stirred? My brackets are f**ked now, but oh well - I love upsets.>> I love upsets, but then again, I loved the plague.> Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney overall.> The real "winner" of an upset is usually the high seed that now gets> to play cinderella in the next round instead of a tough opponent.> And usually a true cinderella only has one magic bullet in her gun.> What happens to your theory when both teams (TT, WVU) are upset winner? Which team do you think UDub would rather play: a hot WVU or TT winner, or a sleepwalking Wake or Gonzaga? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ James Schrumpf http://www.hilltopper.net Well, look. I mean, is he gonna be able to chase us? Cause if I woke up lookin' like that, I would just run towards the nearest living thing and kill it. -- Master Shake
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Navin 20 March 2005 22:35:26 [ permanent link ]
	James Schrumpf wrote:> How do you prefer your martini, Mr. "StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com>? > Shaken, or stirred? > My brackets are f**ked now, but oh well - I love upsets.>>> I love upsets, but then again, I loved the plague.>> Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney overall.>>The real "winner" of an upset is usually the high seed that now gets>>to play cinderella in the next round instead of a tough opponent.>> And usually a true cinderella only has one magic bullet in her gun.>> What happens to your theory when both teams (TT, WVU) are upset winner?> Which team do you think UDub would rather play: a hot WVU or TT winner, or > a sleepwalking Wake or Gonzaga? Washington would probably rather play Gonzaga over TT. TT has a higher Sagarin predictor than Gonzaga does. -- reverse email to reply
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Sxf 20 March 2005 22:51:11 [ permanent link ]
	Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney overall. Nah, it's what makes the NCAA basketball title actually mean something. Unlike that MNC thing in football.
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StephenJ 20 March 2005 23:27:27 [ permanent link ]
	Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney overall.> > The real "winner" of an upset is usually the high seed that now gets> > to play cinderella in the next round instead of a tough opponent.> > And usually a true cinderella only has one magic bullet in her gun.> > What happens to your theory when both teams (TT, WVU) are upset winner? I said "usually". Like take Milwaukee. They aren't the typical cinderella because they've pulled off two big upsets. -- I do not think the United States would come to an end if we lost our power to declare an Act of Congress void. I do think the Union would be imperiled if we could not make that declaration as to the laws of the several States. - Oliver Wendell Holmes, on the SCOTUS
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Bryan S . Slick 20 March 2005 23:33:12 [ permanent link ]
	[StephenJ (cjones@corpus.com)] [Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:27:27 -0600] :> > Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney overall. :> > The real "winner" of an upset is usually the high seed that now gets :> > to play cinderella in the next round instead of a tough opponent. :> > :> > And usually a true cinderella only has one magic bullet in her gun. :> > :> :> What happens to your theory when both teams (TT, WVU) are upset winner? : :I said "usually". Like take Milwaukee. They aren't the typical cinderella :because they've pulled off two big upsets. The way this tournament is going, we're going to have 12 vs. 7 in the championship game. Heh. -- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com "There ain't nothing wrong a few cold beers can't iron out in fact, you tell me just when and where, and I'll buy the first round" [Terri Clark, "I Think The World Needs a Drink"]
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Tom_sawyer70@Yahoo.Com 20 March 2005 23:33:25 [ permanent link ]
	SXF wrote:> Wake vs West Virginia> WOW.> Big play after big play. No one's losing this one; someone's going to> have to WIN it. The win makes for a very interesting team/coach matchup with Texas Tech. I thought WV would be in big trouble without hitting all game long from outside. I didn't get the game locally until very late in the 2nd half, but was very impressed at WV's ability to adjust to Wake's defense of the long ball and drive on them. Then, when available, they were able to return to the 3 with some success. It was interesting on the benches as the game progressed. WV looked like they were composed, having fun and enjoying the game. WF looked pressured and like they didn't even want to be there. Great game from both teams. It will be fun to see the Beilein/Knight matchup later in the week. That is, if CBS doesn't have another blowout on instead.
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Daniel Seriff 21 March 2005 00:06:59 [ permanent link ]
	Bryan S. Slick, if this gets out, the next words you say will be muffled by your own butt: [StephenJ (cjones@corpus.com)]> [Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:27:27 -0600]> Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney overall.>>>> The real "winner" of an upset is usually the high seed that now gets>>>> to play cinderella in the next round instead of a tough opponent.>>>> And usually a true cinderella only has one magic bullet in her gun.>>>> What happens to your theory when both teams (TT, WVU) are upset winner?>> I said "usually". Like take Milwaukee. They aren't the typical cinderella>> because they've pulled off two big upsets.> The way this tournament is going, we're going to have 12 vs. 7 in the > championship game. Heh. And Steve will claim that they're only the champion of the BCS conferences. -- Daniel Seriff Please pardon my sudden interruption. I am the voice of Hanage's heart.
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StephenJ 21 March 2005 00:47:08 [ permanent link ]
	:> What happens to your theory when both teams (TT, WVU) are upset winner?> :> :I said "usually". Like take Milwaukee. They aren't the typical cinderella> :because they've pulled off two big upsets.> The way this tournament is going, we're going to have 12 vs. 7 in the> championship game. Heh. Sure looks that way.
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Bryan S . Slick 21 March 2005 00:52:29 [ permanent link ]
	[StephenJ (cjones@corpus.com)] [Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:47:08 -0600] :> :> What happens to your theory when both teams (TT, WVU) are upset winner? :> : :> :I said "usually". Like take Milwaukee. They aren't the typical cinderella :> :because they've pulled off two big upsets. :> :> The way this tournament is going, we're going to have 12 vs. 7 in the :> championship game. Heh. : :Sure looks that way. If anything worse than an 8 seed wins the NCAAs, they should have to play the NIT winner for the National Championship. Heh. -- Bryan S. Slick, onyx_hokie at yahoo dot com "There ain't nothing wrong a few cold beers can't iron out in fact, you tell me just when and where, and I'll buy the first round" [Terri Clark, "I Think The World Needs a Drink"]
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Milt Epstein 21 March 2005 01:41:18 [ permanent link ]
	Mike Harmon <mike@hlclabs.com> writes: On 2005-03-20, George W Harris <gharrus@mundsprung.com> wrote:>> "SXF" <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote:>> :Wake vs West Virginia>>:>>:WOW.>>:>>:Big play after big play. No one's losing this one; someone's going>>:to have to WIN it.>> No, Skip Prosser lost it by sending a 52.5% free throw shooter>> to the line for a techical. Oh, and for never bothering to teach>> his team how to play defense.> Defense was definitely what killed them. They just never got a stop.>For a long stretch in, I think, the second overtime, the closest they>came to a stop was West Virginia only hitting one free throw, getting>the rebound off the second, and missing a shot that Wake finally>rebounded. Everybody's mentioning their defense, but I actually think offense was a big problem for Wake late. They certainly didn't play great defense, but West Virginia was patient offensively and was executing very well late. And Wake wasn't. Their shot selection was poor and they did a lot of one-on-one stuff. They've got one of the best big men in the country, they should've been going to him just about every play -- but you saw a lot more shots from the perimeter (without even trying to go inside first). -- Milt Epstein mepstein@uiuc.edu
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Milt Epstein 21 March 2005 01:51:30 [ permanent link ]
	James Schrumpf <jaspammenotschrumpf@adelphia.nospamnet> writes: How do you prefer your martini, Mr. "StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com>? >Shaken, or stirred? > My brackets are f**ked now, but oh well - I love upsets.>>> I love upsets, but then again, I loved the plague.>> Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney>> overall. The real "winner" of an upset is usually the high seed>> that now gets to play cinderella in the next round instead of a>> tough opponent.>> And usually a true cinderella only has one magic bullet in her gun.> What happens to your theory when both teams (TT, WVU) are upset>winner? A 6 over a 3 is not really such a big upset (nor is a 7 over a 2 for that matter). Neither of them really qualify as "Cinderella"'s -- especially only in the second round -- you want to look for a team with at least a double digit seed. And in the case of a Texas Tech over a Gonzaga, they weren't even so far off in some of the computer ratings (e.g., Sagarin 19 and 20). Which team do you think UDub would rather play: a hot WVU or TT>winner, or a sleepwalking Wake or Gonzaga? Well, I'm a big believer in regression toward the mean. That means things like a hot WVU won't stay hot that long, and sleepwalking teams wake up (especially if there's a close loss to serve as a wakeup call). -- Milt Epstein mepstein@uiuc.edu
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James Schrumpf 21 March 2005 02:35:21 [ permanent link ]
	How do you prefer your martini, Mr. Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu>? Shaken, or stirred? James Schrumpf <jaspammenotschrumpf@adelphia.nospamnet> writes:> How do you prefer your martini, Mr. "StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com>? >>Shaken, or stirred? >> My brackets are f**ked now, but oh well - I love upsets.>>>> I love upsets, but then again, I loved the plague.>>> Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney>>> overall. The real "winner" of an upset is usually the high seed>>> that now gets to play cinderella in the next round instead of a>>> tough opponent.>>> And usually a true cinderella only has one magic bullet in her gun.>> What happens to your theory when both teams (TT, WVU) are upset>>winner?> A 6 over a 3 is not really such a big upset (nor is a 7 over a 2 for> that matter). Neither of them really qualify as "Cinderella"'s --> especially only in the second round -- you want to look for a team> with at least a double digit seed. And in the case of a Texas Tech> over a Gonzaga, they weren't even so far off in some of the computer> ratings (e.g., Sagarin 19 and 20).> Which team do you think UDub would rather play: a hot WVU or TT>>winner, or a sleepwalking Wake or Gonzaga?> Well, I'm a big believer in regression toward the mean. That means> things like a hot WVU won't stay hot that long, and sleepwalking teams> wake up (especially if there's a close loss to serve as a wakeup call).> May be, but in the Big Dance, you don't get to wake up from a close loss. Yer dead. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ James Schrumpf http://www.hilltopper.net Well, look. I mean, is he gonna be able to chase us? Cause if I woke up lookin' like that, I would just run towards the nearest living thing and kill it. -- Master Shake
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Milt Epstein 21 March 2005 02:43:42 [ permanent link ]
	James Schrumpf <jaspammenotschrumpf@adelphia.nospamnet> writes: How do you prefer your martini, Mr. Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu>? >Shaken, or stirred? [ ... ]>>>> Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney>>>> overall. The real "winner" of an upset is usually the high seed>>>> that now gets to play cinderella in the next round instead of a>>>> tough opponent.>>>> And usually a true cinderella only has one magic bullet in her gun.>>> What happens to your theory when both teams (TT, WVU) are upset>>>winner?>> A 6 over a 3 is not really such a big upset (nor is a 7 over a 2 for>> that matter). Neither of them really qualify as "Cinderella"'s -->> especially only in the second round -- you want to look for a team>> with at least a double digit seed. And in the case of a Texas Tech>> over a Gonzaga, they weren't even so far off in some of the computer>> ratings (e.g., Sagarin 19 and 20).>> Which team do you think UDub would rather play: a hot WVU or TT>>>winner, or a sleepwalking Wake or Gonzaga?>> Well, I'm a big believer in regression toward the mean. That means>> things like a hot WVU won't stay hot that long, and sleepwalking teams>> wake up (especially if there's a close loss to serve as a wakeup call).> May be, but in the Big Dance, you don't get to wake up from a close loss. [ ... ] Sorry, typo -- that was supposed to be "close win"/"near loss". It should've been clear from the context. -- Milt Epstein mepstein@uiuc.edu
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Mike Harmon 21 March 2005 04:50:30 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-03-20, Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu> wrote:> Mike Harmon <mike@hlclabs.com> writes: <snip>>>Defense was definitely what killed them. They just never got a stop.>>For a long stretch in, I think, the second overtime, the closest they>>came to a stop was West Virginia only hitting one free throw, getting>>the rebound off the second, and missing a shot that Wake finally>>rebounded.> Everybody's mentioning their defense, but I actually think offense was> a big problem for Wake late. They certainly didn't play great> defense, but West Virginia was patient offensively and was executing> very well late. The offense had one big problem, which you pointed out. But, in the Wake guards' defense, for a large portion of the overtimes, Williams wasn't in the game, so they couldn't very well go to him. I cannot understand why he wasn't playing, unless he was cramping or so gassed that he just couldn't go. I was impressed with West Virginia's discipline and execution late, but even so, Wake's defense was atrocious. Even a patient team that's executing well shouldn't shoot a layup on practically every half-court possession. West Virginia scored 34 points in ten minutes of overtime. And Wake wasn't. Their shot selection was poor and> they did a lot of one-on-one stuff. They've got one of the best big> men in the country, they should've been going to him just about every> play -- but you saw a lot more shots from the perimeter (without even> trying to go inside first). -- email: mike@hlclabs.com
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Geoffrey F. Green 21 March 2005 05:45:07 [ permanent link ]
	In article <slrnd3s8at.td2.djbSPAMSUCKS@localhost.localdomain>, Donnie Barnes <djbSPAMSUCKS@donniebarnes.com> wrote: Hahahahaha.........hhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha....hahahahaaaaaaa> You don't really think that's an option, do you? Why are you so sure Felton and McCants are returning but not Paul? Paul wasn't the guy who equated being in college to being in jail. - geoff
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Navin 21 March 2005 06:06:36 [ permanent link ]
	Geoffrey F. Green wrote:> In article <slrnd3s8at.td2.djbSPAMSUCKS@localhost.localdomain>,> Donnie Barnes <djbSPAMSUCKS@donniebarnes.com> wrote:> Hahahahaha.........hhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha....hahahahaaaaaaa>> You don't really think that's an option, do you?> Why are you so sure Felton and McCants are returning but not Paul? > Paul wasn't the guy who equated being in college to being in jail. Felton will probably leave. However, I think McCants needs to stay another year. I don't think the NBA scouts like his "perceived" attitude problems. Chad Ford of ESPN says it's hurting his stock. Here are Ford's rankings of UNC's players in their positions. Marvin Williams #1 SF (#2 overall) Raymond Felton #3 PG Rashad McCants #6 SG He hasn't completely broken down the 4s and the 5s yet. He has May in the "players to watch" category for PFs, out of the top 5. He may move into the top 10 with his late season performance. So Felton and M Williams are probably going to bolt when the season ends. Felton will be a tough one to replace right away. Oh, one more thing--Chris Paul is #1 overall. -- reverse email to reply
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Milt Epstein 21 March 2005 06:23:41 [ permanent link ]
	Mike Harmon <mike@hlclabs.com> writes: On 2005-03-20, Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu> wrote: [ ... ]>> Everybody's mentioning their defense, but I actually think offense was>> a big problem for Wake late. They certainly didn't play great>> defense, but West Virginia was patient offensively and was executing>> very well late. > The offense had one big problem, which you pointed out. But, in the >Wake guards' defense, for a large portion of the overtimes, Williams >wasn't in the game, so they couldn't very well go to him. I cannot >understand why he wasn't playing, unless he was cramping or so gassed >that he just couldn't go.> I was impressed with West Virginia's discipline and execution late, but >even so, Wake's defense was atrocious. Even a patient team that's >executing well shouldn't shoot a layup on practically every half-court >possession. West Virginia scored 34 points in ten minutes of overtime. [ ... ] So what was different over the first 40 minutes? That can be taken as an honest question -- I didn't see the earlier parts of the game. But the pace of the game must have been different earlier on. -- Milt Epstein mepstein@uiuc.edu
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Charlie Board 21 March 2005 06:37:55 [ permanent link ]
	Donnie Barnes wrote: Sigh. Well if Chris comes back we're still loaded for another>>run next year.> Hahahahaha.........hhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha....hahahahaaaaaaa> You don't really think that's an option, do you? Not really, no. But on the bright sided - you're gonna lose a helluva lot more...
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Donnie Barnes 21 March 2005 06:51:53 [ permanent link ]
	On Mon, 21 Mar, Geoffrey F. Green wrote:> Donnie Barnes <djbSPAMSUCKS@donniebarnes.com> wrote:>> Hahahahaha.........hhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha....hahahahaaaaaaa>> You don't really think that's an option, do you?> Why are you so sure Felton and McCants are returning but not Paul? Where have I ever said I was sure Felton would stay? Paul wasn't the guy who equated being in college to being in jail. McCants might be bad about saying the wrong thing from time to time, but he'll listen to Roy about what's best for him. Especially when nobody will guarantee they'll pick him in the first round. Roy will promise him that if he works his butt off doing what he says that next year he will be in the top half of that first round, and that's exactly what will happen. --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes http://www.donniebarnes.com 879. V.
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Trevor Zion Bauknight 21 March 2005 09:57:59 [ permanent link ]
	In rec.sport.football.college SXF <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote: Wake vs West Virginia> WOW. What I want to know is this: How does Wake Forest get called for freaking CARRYING in 2005? TWICE?? -- Trev "Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
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Sxf 21 March 2005 11:42:04 [ permanent link ]
	What I want to know is this: How does Wake Forest get called for> freaking CARRYING in 2005? TWICE?? I thought the officiating was pretty weak in the second OT, but that was a good call. The charge they called before that on the Wake guard was pretty weak, I felt.
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George W . Harris 21 March 2005 11:55:24 [ permanent link ]
	"StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com> wrote: :Upsets are great for the moment, but they diminsh the tourney overall. The :real "winner" of an upset is usually the high seed that now gets to play :cinderella in the next round instead of a tough opponent. Yeah, UConn and BC really lucked out! :And usually a true cinderella only has one magic bullet in her gun. -- "It is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." -Hermann Goering George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'.
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George W . Harris 21 March 2005 12:00:52 [ permanent link ]
	Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu> wrote: :Mike Harmon <mike@hlclabs.com> writes: : :>On 2005-03-20, George W Harris <gharrus@mundsprung.com> wrote: :>> No, Skip Prosser lost it by sending a 52.5% free throw shooter :>> to the line for a techical. Oh, and for never bothering to teach :>> his team how to play defense. :> :>Defense was definitely what killed them. They just never got a stop. :>For a long stretch in, I think, the second overtime, the closest they :>came to a stop was West Virginia only hitting one free throw, getting :>the rebound off the second, and missing a shot that Wake finally :>rebounded. : :Everybody's mentioning their defense, but I actually think offense was :a big problem for Wake late. Maybe so, but their defense was horrendous. WVU shot 37 of 70 with nine offensive rebounds while commiting only 11 turnovers. That's a complete lack of ball pressure on Wake's part. :They certainly didn't play great :defense, but West Virginia was patient offensively and was executing :very well late. It's easy to execute your offense when you aren't being defended. :And Wake wasn't. Their shot selection was poor and :they did a lot of one-on-one stuff. They've got one of the best big :men in the country, they should've been going to him just about every lay -- but you saw a lot more shots from the perimeter (without even trying* to go inside first). Wake did lose their composure when WVU came back, but WVU only came back because Wake let them score at will. -- Real men don't need macho posturing to bolster their egos. George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'.
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Charlie Board 21 March 2005 16:33:15 [ permanent link ]
	Trevor Zion Bauknight wrote:> In rec.sport.football.college SXF <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote:> Wake vs West Virginia>> WOW.> What I want to know is this: How does Wake Forest get called for> freaking CARRYING in 2005? TWICE?? One of which wasn't even a carry, just a (legal) high dribble! At a crucial point in OT (not that there are any non-crucial points in OT). That sucked.
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Trevor Zion Bauknight 21 March 2005 18:18:10 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1111390924.242216.283530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, "SXF" <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote: What I want to know is this: How does Wake Forest get called for> > freaking CARRYING in 2005? TWICE??> I thought the officiating was pretty weak in the second OT, but that> was a good call. The charge they called before that on the Wake guard> was pretty weak, I felt. CARRYING. -- Trev "Every Democratic Senator is to the right of Kerry..including Kucinich." - C. Beauchamp
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Trent Woodruff 21 March 2005 22:04:56 [ permanent link ]
	Trevor Zion Bauknight was cut from the Baylor football team for saying...>>In rec.sport.football.college SXF <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote: Wake vs West Virginia>> WOW. What I want to know is this: How does Wake Forest get called for>freaking CARRYING in 2005? TWICE?? One of the refs accidentally read the rulebook and noticed that it was actually supposed to be called. Now if they could get that traveling thing going... Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger ...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
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Mike Harmon 22 March 2005 00:08:02 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-03-21, Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu> wrote:> Mike Harmon <mike@hlclabs.com> writes: <snip>>>West Virginia scored 34 points in ten minutes of overtime. > [ ... ]> So what was different over the first 40 minutes? That can be taken as> an honest question -- I didn't see the earlier parts of the game. But> the pace of the game must have been different earlier on. I don't know. I didn't start paying attention to the game until West Virginia made their run in the second half. -- email: mike@hlclabs.com
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Navin 23 March 2005 07:03:40 [ permanent link ]
	George W. Harris wrote:> Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu> wrote:> :Mike Harmon <mike@hlclabs.com> writes:> :> :>On 2005-03-20, George W Harris <gharrus@mundsprung.com> wrote:> :>> No, Skip Prosser lost it by sending a 52.5% free throw shooter> :>> to the line for a techical. Oh, and for never bothering to teach> :>> his team how to play defense.> :>> :>Defense was definitely what killed them. They just never got a stop.> :>For a long stretch in, I think, the second overtime, the closest they> :>came to a stop was West Virginia only hitting one free throw, getting> :>the rebound off the second, and missing a shot that Wake finally> :>rebounded.> :> :Everybody's mentioning their defense, but I actually think offense was> :a big problem for Wake late. > Maybe so, but their defense was horrendous. > WVU shot 37 of 70 with nine offensive rebounds while > commiting only 11 turnovers. That's a complete lack of > ball pressure on Wake's part. Sounds like UConn's ball pressure... I read somewhere that their entire defense comes from their (very good) ability to block shots. -- reverse email to reply
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Navin 23 March 2005 07:04:27 [ permanent link ]
	Charlie Board wrote:> Trevor Zion Bauknight wrote:> In rec.sport.football.college SXF <sxfleischer@gmail.com> wrote:>> Wake vs West Virginia>>> WOW.>> What I want to know is this: How does Wake Forest get called for>> freaking CARRYING in 2005? TWICE??> One of which wasn't even a carry, just a (legal) high dribble!> At a crucial point in OT (not that there are any non-crucial> points in OT). That sucked. Agreed. They ignore that call so often. They also botched a charge in OT or 2OT. -- reverse email to reply
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