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This is entertaining...
Geoffrey F. Green 19 March 2005 04:50:02
	I thought the benefit of having a #1 seed (as a fan) was that you could take off the first game. Sigh... - geoff
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Marek W. Lugowski 19 March 2005 05:14:12 [ permanent link ]
	Geoffrey F. Green <geoff-usenet2@stuebegreen.com> wrote: I thought the benefit of having a #1 seed (as a fan) was that you >could take off the first game. Sigh...> - geoff I have to compliment the CBS commentators for this game for their unusually trenchant commentary breaking down what Delaware State is trying to do to Duke. Most of the commentary in the games I have seen has been unremarkable. They yanked us from the Wisconsin/Northern Iowa game to show us this one. So far -- I agree with Geoff -- pretty entertaining, although Delaware State is turning the ball over excessively now at the end of the first half... -- Marek -- http://users.rcn.com/marek/
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Milt Epstein 19 March 2005 05:48:37 [ permanent link ]
	"Geoffrey F. Green" <geoff-usenet2@stuebegreen.com> writes: I thought the benefit of having a #1 seed (as a fan) was that you >could take off the first game. Sigh... C'mon, earlier you were complaining that none of the games were close! -- Milt Epstein mepstein@uiuc.edu
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Donnie Barnes 19 March 2005 07:05:17 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 19 Mar, Geoffrey F. Green wrote:> I thought the benefit of having a #1 seed (as a fan) was that you > could take off the first game. Sigh... One thing you can take to the bank is that among the 1/16 and 2/15 games, whether the higher seed wins by 8 or by 28 rarely has much bearing on how they fare in the rest of the tourney. Sure, you'd rather win by 28 most of the time, but not playing great and still winning by 8 or more isn't too much to worry about. K will right the ship. --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes http://www.donniebarnes.com 879. V.
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Geoffrey F. Green 19 March 2005 07:26:15 [ permanent link ]
	In article <slrnd3n5j3.nhe.djbSPAMSUCKS@localhost.localdomain>, Donnie Barnes <djbSPAMSUCKS@donniebarnes.com> wrote: On Sat, 19 Mar, Geoffrey F. Green wrote:> > I thought the benefit of having a #1 seed (as a fan) was that you > > could take off the first game. Sigh...> One thing you can take to the bank is that among the 1/16 and 2/15 games,> whether the higher seed wins by 8 or by 28 rarely has much bearing on how> they fare in the rest of the tourney. Sure, you'd rather win by 28 most of> the time, but not playing great and still winning by 8 or more isn't too> much to worry about.> K will right the ship. Agreed. But I still wanted to relax! - geoff
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Donnie Barnes 19 March 2005 08:09:31 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 19 Mar, Geoffrey F. Green wrote:> Agreed. But I still wanted to relax! Then you have my permission to live vicariously through me today! I had a blast! --Donnie -- Donnie Barnes http://www.donniebarnes.com 879. V.
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Geoffrey F. Green 19 March 2005 08:15:17 [ permanent link ]
	In article <slrnd3n9fk.4vb.nanae@bill.heins.net>, Perusion Hostmaster <nanae@nanae.perusion.com> wrote: Ahem. I was interested in that because of Illinois' disappointing> first-round performance.> Average score of 1-16 games: 85.5-60.4 Arguably, the 16 seeds might be at least marginally better. The odds that you'll get two really, unbelievably crappy teams among the 16 seeds is reduced because the two worst teams are shipped off to the play-in game, and only one survives. The rest of the 1 seeds won't be as abysmal. Of the remaining 16 seeds, you'll have one that might have been a 15 seed in years past, and the others might be a significant step up from the worst teams that played in the play-in game. Just a thought, though it would be interested to see how craptacular the 16 seeds have been since the play-in game versus beforehand. - geoff
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Perusion Hostmaster 19 March 2005 08:56:25 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-03-19, Geoffrey F. Green <geoff-usenet2@stuebegreen.com> wrote:> In article <slrnd3nbqe.5ld.nanae@bill.heins.net>,> Perusion Hostmaster <nanae@nanae.perusion.com> wrote:> I would think it would make a minimal difference. Not much data,>> but:> I'm no mathematician, so correct me if I'm wrong, but you'd probably > only notice any difference in the outliers -- one game each year, to > account for the extra team that gets shunted to the play-in game. So > it might be difficult to detect any effect, wouldn't it?> Maybe the thing to do (when someone has time) is to find out the RPI > ratings (or some other rating) for all the 16 seeds and see if there's > any pattern to be noticed there. I have that, but only back to 92-93. Next year, maybe. -- Few blame themselves until they have exhausted all other possibilities. -- anonymous
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