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Re: DUKE ALL THE WAY

Edward M. Kennedy 20 March 2005 04:18:20
 <filfes@duke.edu> wrote

[snip above average woof]

It's like a plague of locusts. Thank god MD and VT are in the NIT.

--Tedward


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George W . Harris 16 March 2005 09:38:39 [ permanent link ]
 Hey, it's Duke Fan aka UNC Fan aka UConn
sockpuppet! Decided to hop off the UNC bandwagon
and back on the Duke bandwagon?

--
Never give a loaded gun to a woman in labor.

George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'.
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Elaich 16 March 2005 12:15:49 [ permanent link ]
 filfes@duke.edu wrote in
news:6kcf31hvq050d5­o9km4e0ef8i05b08evmq­@4ax.com:
I can't believe no one's started printing championship gear for Duke> yet, so I had to order a bunch of custom-made t-shirts and hats that> say "DUKE BLUE DEVILS 2005 NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL CHAMPIONS".

You're a very good example of why people across the country hate Duke.
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George W . Harris 16 March 2005 12:42:45 [ permanent link ]
 elaich <a@b.c> wrote:

:filfes@duke.edu wrote in
:news:6kcf31hvq050d­5o9km4e0ef8i05b08evm­q@4ax.com:
:
:> I can't believe no one's started printing championship gear for Duke
:> yet, so I had to order a bunch of custom-made t-shirts and hats that
:> say "DUKE BLUE DEVILS 2005 NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL CHAMPIONS".
:
:You're a very good example of why people across the country hate Duke.

No, he's a very good example of a person who
hates Duke. You're a very good example of why people
hate UNC.

--
Real men don't need macho posturing to bolster their egos.

George W. Harris For actual email address, replace each 'u' with an 'i'.
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Jama 16 March 2005 14:29:00 [ permanent link ]
 
filfes@duke.edu wrote:>
Connecticut? Calhoun's won the last few times against us, but
there's NO WAY> my man Coach K will lose 4 games in a row to him. NO FUCKING WAY.
Take that> to the bank, yo.>

Oops. UConn has already won the past 4 meetings:

94-95 UConn 90, Duke 86
98-99 UConn 77, Duke 74
99-00 UConn 71, Duke 66
03-04 UCobb 79, Duke 78

You'll need something stronger than "NO F---ING WAY" for 5 times in a
row. Ideas anyone?

JAMA

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Jama 16 March 2005 14:36:27 [ permanent link ]
 
No, he's a very good example of a person who
hates Duke

He does have a @duke.edu eMail. He appears too stupid to know how to
modify his eMail sig. So:

1. He really is a Duke fan and the "woof" means Duke is doomed!
2. He is a UNC fan pulling a "reverse-woof" and Duke will win it all.
3. He's a UConn fan instigating the "scam-woof" and both Duke and UNC
are fillibustered into losing in the Sweet Sixteen.

Since I doubt UNC fans are clever enough for (2), and UConn is so
awesome we have no need to resort to tricks like (3), it must be
scenario (1) !!! Duke is toast!

Jama

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Geoffrey F. Green 16 March 2005 15:27:58 [ permanent link ]
 In article <1110969387.108784.­277000@g14g2000cwa.g­ooglegroups.com>,
"Jama" <mrjama@aol.com> wrote:
No, he's a very good example of a person who> hates Duke>
He does have a @duke.edu eMail. He appears too stupid to know how to> modify his eMail sig. So:

Well, he's posting from a Comcast account, so he's not on campus, at
least. (Or, if he is, he's showing a modicum of technical savvy.)

- geoff
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Harry Everhart 16 March 2005 17:46:18 [ permanent link ]
 elaich <a@b.c> wrote:> You're a very good example of why people across the country hate Duke.

There is only one reason everybody hates Duke - they win a lot.
Harry
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Erik T. Nomad 16 March 2005 19:36:31 [ permanent link ]
 
"Joel K. 'Jay' Furr" <jfurr-nospam@nospa­m-furrs.org> wrote in message
news:Xns961B6A3A5FD­F4jfurrfurrsorg@216.­168.3.44...> Harry Everhart <harry@everhart.com­> wrote in news:harry-> C43075.095508160320­05@comcast.dca.gigan­ews.com:>
What? Weren't you SATs high enough to get in? Only kidding :-)­ Looks> > like you are carrying a lot of baggage into every duke game you see.>
SATs were *plenty* high enough. My grades *sucked*. Duke won't let
people> in who have 2.77 high school GPAs unless they're 300 pounds and can run
40 in 3.9 seconds flat.

Careful now; you're making it sound like Duke actually values football.

E


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Harry Everhart 16 March 2005 21:15:06 [ permanent link ]
 "Joel K. 'Jay' Furr" <jfurr-nospam@nospa­m-furrs.org> wrote:> Hypothetically speaking, what would you say the admission requirements at > Duke should be for a 300-pounder who can run the 40 in 3.9 flat? And would > you be willing to go over and wash him twice a week if that's what he > demanded?

Hi Joel -
You seem like a really neat guy - but on this thread you are coming
across sounding very bitter. Back in the old days - the 60s - I could
not even dream of going to Duke. I did not even know what a Duke was.
Daddy was a coal miner - I went to a little dinky HS - I took the SAT
once - as soon as a local state teachers' college accepted me - Dad sent
a $50 deposit in and we celebrated. I graduated and taught 33 years
within sight of that old coal mine - my kid was valedictorian - and got
a free ride to Duke. You can see my obvious prejudice. :-)­
As Steve Martin said, "I was born a poor black child."
Harry
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Harry Everhart 16 March 2005 21:26:43 [ permanent link ]
 "Joel K. 'Jay' Furr" <jfurr-nospam@nospa­m-furrs.org> wrote:> I'm not bitter. I'm demented.

affected with madness or insanity; "a man who had gone mad" - I had to
look it up :-)­
Harry
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Harry Everhart 16 March 2005 22:08:49 [ permanent link ]
 "Joel K. 'Jay' Furr" <jfurr-nospam@nospa­m-furrs.org> wrote:> Harry, > I would appreciate it greatly if you would end each of your posts to rsfc > or rsbc with that quote. It would be more honest, actually, if we *all* > did.
Joel -
You make more sense everyday :-)­
It is good know you.
Harry
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Jama 16 March 2005 22:17:09 [ permanent link ]
 
It is possible for people to hate teams for other reasons than they win
a lot. For example, I hate the Dallas Cowboys because for some reason
they think they are "America's Team". And they sure have lost a lot
lately. People still hate Notre Dame because of their arrogance - yet
they lose more than they win now. Also, I hated Duke in 1995 too - and
they lost almost every game. But that was the year Wojo was introduced
as a Polish Stockton according to the ACC media even though everyone
else knew he was nothing more than a decent backup PG AT BEST.

As for now, I don't hate Duke. UConn has beaten them 4 times a row in
great games. I did hate them back in the laettner days because I had
contacts that told me stories you would not believe. Very reliable
sources (like UConn starting players) told me that even though
Georgetown got a(deservedly so) bad rap as a "dirty" team - Duke was
much, much worse in terms of cheap shots, trash talk (as in racist and
anti-semitic) and dirty play. Anyway, water under the bridge now.

However, I DO hate (some of) their fans and the media bias. Others
hate Duke for the referee bias, but to me, that's part of the game and
why K is a great coach.

Jama

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Jama 16 March 2005 22:17:19 [ permanent link ]
 
It is possible for people to hate teams for other reasons than they win
a lot. For example, I hate the Dallas Cowboys because for some reason
they think they are "America's Team". And they sure have lost a lot
lately. People still hate Notre Dame because of their arrogance - yet
they lose more than they win now. Also, I hated Duke in 1995 too - and
they lost almost every game. But that was the year Wojo was introduced
as a Polish Stockton according to the ACC media even though everyone
else knew he was nothing more than a decent backup PG AT BEST.

As for now, I don't hate Duke. UConn has beaten them 4 times a row in
great games. I did hate them back in the laettner days because I had
contacts that told me stories you would not believe. Very reliable
sources (like UConn starting players) told me that even though
Georgetown got a(deservedly so) bad rap as a "dirty" team - Duke was
much, much worse in terms of cheap shots, trash talk (as in racist and
anti-semitic) and dirty play. Anyway, water under the bridge now.

However, I DO hate (some of) their fans and the media bias. Others
hate Duke for the referee bias, but to me, that's part of the game and
why K is a great coach.

Jama

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Drew 16 March 2005 22:18:11 [ permanent link ]
 "Harry Everhart" <harry@everhart.com­> wrote in message news:harry-95EFD2.0­8461816032005@comcas­t.dca.giganews.com..­.> elaich <a@b.c> wrote:> > You're a very good example of why people across the country hate Duke.>
There is only one reason everybody hates Duke - they win a lot.> Harry

I hate people who generalize.

Oh, and the Dutch. Mustn't forget them.

Drew



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Joseph Jeong 16 March 2005 22:36:19 [ permanent link ]
 Drew <yeah@right.not> was rumored to have said:> "Harry Everhart" <harry@everhart.com­> wrote in message news:harry-95EFD2.0­8461816032005@comcas­t.dca.giganews.com..­.>> elaich <a@b.c> wrote:>> > You're a very good example of why people across the country hate Duke.>>
There is only one reason everybody hates Duke - they win a lot.>> Harry>
I hate people who generalize.

shut up you UNC fan!
Oh, and the Dutch. Mustn't forget them.

the canadiens are feeling slighted right about now.



-joseph
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Donnie Barnes 16 March 2005 23:24:22 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 16 Mar, Jama wrote:> It is possible for people to hate teams for other reasons than they win> a lot. For example, I hate the Dallas Cowboys because for some reason> they think they are "America's Team".

How do you think they *got* to be "America's Team"??? It sure wasn't by
finishing last a lot.
And they sure have lost a lot> lately. People still hate Notre Dame because of their arrogance - yet> they lose more than they win now.

Why did Notre Dame folks get so arrogant???
Also, I hated Duke in 1995 too - and> they lost almost every game. But that was the year Wojo was introduced> as a Polish Stockton according to the ACC media even though everyone> else knew he was nothing more than a decent backup PG AT BEST.

Duke wasn't very far removed from a couple NCs, which is the only reason
anyone bothered to hype anyone with the likes of Wojo.
As for now, I don't hate Duke. UConn has beaten them 4 times a row in> great games. I did hate them back in the laettner days because I had> contacts that told me stories you would not believe. Very reliable> sources (like UConn starting players) told me that even though> Georgetown got a(deservedly so) bad rap as a "dirty" team - Duke was> much, much worse in terms of cheap shots, trash talk (as in racist and> anti-semitic) and dirty play. Anyway, water under the bridge now.

Come on, bring on the stories!


--Donnie

--
Donnie Barnes http://www.donnieba­rnes.com 879. V.
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Donnie Barnes 16 March 2005 23:25:01 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 16 Mar, joseph jeong wrote:> the canadiens are feeling slighted right about now.

Why would you want to hate the 51st state?


--Donnie

--
Donnie Barnes http://www.donnieba­rnes.com 879. V.
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Harry Everhart 16 March 2005 23:25:12 [ permanent link ]
 "Jama" <mrjama@aol.com> wrote:> However, I DO hate (some of) their fans and the media bias. Others> hate Duke for the referee bias, but to me, that's part of the game and> why K is a great coach.

Jama -
If there was not a Duke University Blue Devils - ABC and ESPN would have
created one from scratch. They do get an unfair amount of publicity - it
means good ratings for ABC.
Harry
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Harry Everhart 16 March 2005 23:28:33 [ permanent link ]
 "Joel K. 'Jay' Furr" <jfurr-nospam@nospa­m-furrs.org> wrote:> Harry, what's the closest restaurant serving really good quality pork > barbeque (yes, I know that's redundant)? I mean, street address, city > state zip, everything. I *need* to know.
Joel -
I know you are setting me up for a big one but - Sonny's - 2527
Apalachee Pkwy - Tallahassee, FL 32301 - (850) 878-1185.
It is less than a mile from my house. :-)­
Harry
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Harry Everhart 17 March 2005 01:51:46 [ permanent link ]
 
I know you are setting me up for a big one but - Sonny's - 2527 > > Apalachee Pkwy - Tallahassee, FL 32301 - (850) 878-1185.> > It is less than a mile from my house. :-)­> Do you like it? I've been to the occasional Sonny's. It doesn't suck, but > it's not the best.
I eat almost anything - and it is so close we can walk to it - good food
- good people - nice surrounding - and unlimited big sweet teas :-)­
Sure it's not the best - but it is fun.
Harry
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Edward M. Kennedy 17 March 2005 01:58:47 [ permanent link ]
 "Harry Everhart" <harry@everhart.com­> shoots fish in a barrel:
I'm not bitter. I'm demented.>
affected with madness or insanity; "a man who had gone mad" - I had to> look it up :-)­

A person who's demented has demental problems.

--Tedward



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Archibald Q . Leachington 17 March 2005 04:03:04 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:18:11 -0600, in rec.sport.basketbal­l.college
"Drew" <yeah@right.not> wrote:
"Harry Everhart" <harry@everhart.com­> wrote in message news:harry-95EFD2.0­8461816032005@comcas­t.dca.giganews.com..­.>> elaich <a@b.c> wrote:>> > You're a very good example of why people across the country hate Duke.>>
There is only one reason everybody hates Duke - they win a lot.>> Harry>
I hate people who generalize.>
Oh, and the Dutch. Mustn't forget them.>

What have you got against the Dutch, anyhow???

This isn't some weird Michigan thing, is it?

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Drew 17 March 2005 04:54:20 [ permanent link ]
 "Archibald Q. Leachington" <archie.leach@spam.­munge> wrote in message news:2dih31tsrtu18l­ebm3csf2rsh85cajibtv­@4ax.com...> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:18:11 -0600, in rec.sport.basketbal­l.college>
What have you got against the Dutch, anyhow???

That was a back-handed "Goldmember" reference, nothing more.
This isn't some weird Michigan thing, is it?

Stop being redundant.

Drew



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Johnny 17 March 2005 05:53:33 [ permanent link ]
 Joel K. 'Jay' Furr wrote:
Harry Everhart <harry@everhart.com­> wrote in news:harry-> 95EFD2.084618160320­05@comcast.dca.gigan­ews.com:>
You're a very good example of why people across the country hate Duke.>>
There is only one reason everybody hates Duke - they win a lot.>
Harry,>
My mother went to Duke. My father went to Duke. My sister has *two* > degrees from Duke. I used to work at Duke. I used to volunteer at Duke. > I don't exactly hate Duke. I used to be pleased by the emphasis they > placed on getting their athletes to graduate. But then I started paying > attention to what thugs they are on the basketball court and what absurd > deference the referees pay to them. It's sort of like watching the > referees step back and watch the Jordan-era Bulls do whatever they wanted. > Consequently, I'm less thrilled with Duke than I used to be, and become > even less so the more I look.>

Joel, consider yourself lucky that that's all you have
against Duke. I am a UNLV grad class of '70 and former
Rebel fan (1967-1977), and when we talk UNLV in the Tark era
(1973-1993) we are talking big time misbehavior, including
but not limited to the first and only (to my knowledge)
trade of college players (with Hawaii for Boyd Batts),
repeated blatant recruiting violations, boosters so much in
control of the program that a booster (Davey Pearl) actually
had a seat on the bench during games for several years, a
collusive lawsuit between Tark and the school against the
NCAA (I worked for the law firm that represented Tark but
not on that case), making an assistant coach the legal
guardian of a non-predictor recruit, and players openly
consorting with gamblers (there is a photograph of one
instance of that).

As for me, I am three times hated: I am a UNLV alumnus, a
Dukie (honorary), and a Harvard Law grad. :-)­

Johnny <I had the blues 'cause I had no shoes, 'til one day
in the street I met a man with no feet.>

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Johnny 17 March 2005 06:45:36 [ permanent link ]
 Harry Everhart wrote:>
You can watch any basketball game with a slanted view for or against any > team. Every viewer can add up all the close calls for or against their > team. It is easy in a one point game to pick out one play or player and > blame the loss on him. If a guy misses a free throw with one second to > go - you can blame it on him. A guy score 35 points - then misses a > three at the buzzer or fouls another guy and he makes the shot to win - > he immediately becomes the goat. You can watch every game and pick out a > play that a ref blew and blame it on him. When someone loses - they need > Harry

In a one point decision, which is the most important point
of the game? The last? The first? All of them?


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Archibald Q . Leachington 17 March 2005 07:39:29 [ permanent link ]
 On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:54:20 -0600, in rec.sport.basketbal­l.college
"Drew" <yeah@right.not> wrote:
"Archibald Q. Leachington" <archie.leach@spam.­munge> wrote in message news:2dih31tsrtu18l­ebm3csf2rsh85cajibtv­@4ax.com...>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 12:18:11 -0600, in rec.sport.basketbal­l.college>>
What have you got against the Dutch, anyhow???>
That was a back-handed "Goldmember" reference, nothing more.>

-thud-

I. Have. Been. Trolled. By. Bait. That. Was. Never. Intended.
To. Be. Bait.
This isn't some weird Michigan thing, is it?>
Stop being redundant.>

So, what's the weirdest Michigan "thing":

1.) Turkeyville
2.) Frankenmuth
3.) -other-


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Drew 17 March 2005 09:41:59 [ permanent link ]
 "Archibald Q. Leachington" <archie.leach@spam.­munge> wrote in message news:91vh31hej37qeg­vc0t16qvr20vlm712bgk­@4ax.com...>
I. Have. Been. Trolled. By. Bait. That. Was. Never. Intended.> To. Be. Bait.

lol, that's about the size of it ;-)­
So, what's the weirdest Michigan "thing":>
1.) Turkeyville> 2.) Frankenmuth> 3.) -other-

That's easy.

Damnation University (http://www.damu.co­m/)

Located, of course, in Hell, Michigan (http://www.hell2u.­com/about.html)

From which, if you wish, you can always drive to Paradise.

Paradise, Michigan, that is - http://www.explorin­gthenorth.com/paradi­se/homepara.html

Drew



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Jama 17 March 2005 12:02:55 [ permanent link ]
 
As for now, I don't hate Duke. UConn has beaten them 4 times a row
great games. I did hate them back in the laettner days because I
contacts that told me stories you would not believe. Very reliable> > sources (like UConn starting players) told me that even though> > Georgetown got a(deservedly so) bad rap as a "dirty" team - Duke
much, much worse in terms of cheap shots, trash talk (as in racist
anti-semitic) and dirty play. Anyway, water under the bridge now.>
Come on, bring on the stories!>

Stories: sure - I lived in the Basketball dorm at the time and hung out
with the players those years. In particular, some interesting stories
include the following (there are more):

1) Everyone thought Coach K was an angel at the time, but he swears
more than any other coach and makes comments to the opposing teams
players. Dean Smith did the same, but without the swearing. I guess
this has been proven out over time, so it's not really a "scoop".

2) Lattner was one of the biggest a-holes in the history of college
b-ball. He made constant anti-semetic remarks to Henefeld (Henefeld
said Laettner made Mourning look like a brownie in terms of nasty,
politically-incorre­ct statements). Also, the reason Sellers bashed
Laettners head in was a combination of the above and that Laettner
called Sellers "stupid ni----" throughtout game(s). Apparently Laettner
saw that the n-word bothered Sellers so he made no bones about using it
loud and clear and often. The refs did nothing despite numerous
complaints, so Sellers finally bashed his head in (see
http://www.huskiesh­oops.com/huskies/men­/players/sellersr.ph­p). One
thing - Sellers finally wrote a letter of apology to Coach K about the
incident. However, in the letter, and to this day, he NEVER apologized
to Laettner - only Coach K. This was supposed to be a
"read-between-the-l­ines" comment on what really happened, but the press
was either to stupid or too Duke-biased to notice it. In the press, it
was nothing but "poor baby Laettner, he has head boo-boo from mean
black man".

3. B Davis was the biggest cheap-shot artist ever. Groin grabbing,
kicking, etc. A very dirty player. He and Laettner played off each
other a lot in this regard.

4. Nothing horrible about Hurley other than he was a whining cry-baby
to the refs at the time (his FR, SO years).

Looking back on these stories, I guess none of them are really
surprising since they've more or less been proven over the years. But
at the time, no one was saying these things and everyone in the media
was kissing Dukes butt. So yes, combined with Laettner's last second
shot against UConn, I did hate Duke back then. But UConn has more than
made up for it recently.

Jama

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Harry Everhart 17 March 2005 18:44:40 [ permanent link ]
 "Drew" <yeah@right.not> wrote:> > I. Have. Been. Trolled. By. Bait. That. Was. Never. Intended.> > To. Be. Bait.

It is so funny when someone can't respond to an original posting that
rips their team or idea - they start yelling " bait.....bait.....b­ait"

Why don't you be a real girly man and just say "whatever?"

"To a philosopher - all news is gossip."
"On rsbc - all original thought is bait."

Harry
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Drew 17 March 2005 20:02:47 [ permanent link ]
 "Harry Everhart" <harry@everhart.com­> wrote in message news:harry-480079.0­9444017032005@comcas­t.dca.giganews.com..­.> "Drew" <yeah@right.not> wrote:> > > I. Have. Been. Trolled. By. Bait. That. Was. Never. Intended.> > > To. Be. Bait.>
It is so funny when someone can't respond to an original posting that> rips their team or idea - they start yelling " bait.....bait.....b­ait"

Harry, you are so far off base on this one I don't know what to say.
I quoted a misanthropic line from a movie, and Archie thought I
was being serious, and asked about it. At no point was a team
mentioned, or anyone or anything ripped (except maybe a fart,
I did have that wild mushroom bisque for lunch yesterday :-D­.
Why don't you be a real girly man and just say "whatever?"

Whatever.

Drew







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Archibald Q . Leachington 18 March 2005 16:38:37 [ permanent link ]
 On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:44:40 -0500, in rec.sport.basketbal­l.college
Harry Everhart <harry@everhart.com­> wrote:
"Drew" <yeah@right.not> wrote:>> > I. Have. Been. Trolled. By. Bait. That. Was. Never. Intended.>> > To. Be. Bait.>
It is so funny when someone can't respond to an original posting that >rips their team or idea - they start yelling " bait.....bait.....b­ait">
Why don't you be a real girly man and just say "whatever?">
"To a philosopher - all news is gossip.">"On rsbc - all original thought is bait.">
Harry

Troll.

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Geoffrey F. Green 19 March 2005 16:09:15 [ permanent link ]
 In article <593a70fa.050318211­7.1b0336b5@posting.g­oogle.com>,
THEJeffBarnes@webtv­.net (Jeff Barnes) wrote:
Reddick fussing at ref

In fairness, that was about the worst charge call I've ever seen.

- geoff
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Howard Lander 20 March 2005 04:18:20 [ permanent link ]
 Geoffrey F. Green wrote:> In article <593a70fa.050318211­7.1b0336b5@posting.g­oogle.com>,> THEJeffBarnes@webtv­.net (Jeff Barnes) wrote:>
Reddick fussing at ref>
In fairness, that was about the worst charge call I've ever seen.>
- geoff
I don't think I've ever seen TWO guys flop on one play before. It was
awesome.

Howard
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