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GYXU > Basketball > bogut 28 March 2005 20:22:52

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StephenJ 26 March 2005 19:12:20
	i'm not sure why the NBA scouts are ga-ga over this guy. He didn't dominate, even against a mediocre-at-best Kentucky center duo, and even though the refs were extremely generous with calls going in his favor. He looked soft. I don't think this guy is going to take over the NBA. Perhaps 9 pts and 6 boards a night?
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StephenJ 26 March 2005 10:03:17 [ permanent link ]
	i'm not sure why the NBA scouts are ga-ga over this guy. He didn't dominate, even against a mediocre-at-best Kentucky center duo, and even though the refs were extremely generous with calls going in his favor. He looked soft. I don't think this guy is going to take over the NBA. Perhaps 9 pts and 6 boards a night? -- "The federal judiciary is working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief over the field of jurisdiction until all shall be usurped from the States, and the government of all be consolidated into one (i.e., federalization)" - Thomas Jefferson
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Dave Reid 26 March 2005 10:36:43 [ permanent link ]
	"StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com> wrote in news:fX61e.6245$TZ.1842@okepread06: i'm not sure why the NBA scouts are ga-ga over this guy. Can't teach height. Good feel for the game...good passer...great hands. Sure, he's a project, but he's a 7 footer. Hell, even Shawn Bradley is still in the league. dave
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I am Jack's utter apathy 26 March 2005 10:40:29 [ permanent link ]
	Remind me to send "Dave Reid" a red cap and a speedo...> "StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com> wrote in> news:fX61e.6245$TZ.1842@okepread06: > i'm not sure why the NBA scouts are ga-ga over this guy. > Can't teach height. Good feel for the game...good passer...great > hands.> Sure, he's a project, but he's a 7 footer. Hell, even Shawn Bradley > is still in the league.> dave> Darko. -- TO Turn those machines back on! TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK OOONNN!!
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Kokopeli 26 March 2005 11:09:43 [ permanent link ]
	"I am Jack's utter apathy" <mrtobrien@hcetirema.gnet> wrote in message news:MPG.1caece2115e8b79198a0eb@news.det.sbcglobal.net...> Remind me to send "Dave Reid" a red cap and a speedo...>> "StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com> wrote in>> news:fX61e.6245$TZ.1842@okepread06:>> i'm not sure why the NBA scouts are ga-ga over this guy.>> Can't teach height. Good feel for the game...good passer...great>> hands.>> Sure, he's a project, but he's a 7 footer. Hell, even Shawn Bradley>> is still in the league.>> dave>> Darko. If Detroit had passed on him, he would be starting somewhere. dw
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Jeffrey Davis 26 March 2005 17:38:53 [ permanent link ]
	StephenJ wrote: i'm not sure why the NBA scouts are ga-ga over this guy. He didn't dominate,> even against a mediocre-at-best Kentucky center duo, and even though the> refs were extremely generous with calls going in his favor. He looked soft. "Extrmemely generaous" doesn't do it justice. I only saw around 20 seconds of the game. In it, Bogut went over Woo's back 3 times to score 2 points. A pity-swallowing-of-the-whistle like that /must undermine a player's confidence.> I don't think this guy is going to take over the NBA. Perhaps 9 pts and 6> boards a night?> From what I've heard, he's more of a passer.
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Jon Enslin 26 March 2005 19:03:20 [ permanent link ]
	OrangeDood wrote:> If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five> minutes, alicamdun@yahoo.com!> Darko.>> If Detroit had passed on him, he would be starting somewhere.>> Perhaps with the Bratislava Sludge?>> The drafting of Tayshaun Prince, for the time being, is>> making Piston fans forget Darko.> I swore up and down at the time Darko was a stupid pick. Y'all told> me I was crazy. Bet they'd rather have Carmelo now. Dumnasses. "Carmelo" is an interesting way to spell "Dwyane Wade." Seriously though, would either of them start for the Pistons now??? Jon
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Trent Woodruff 26 March 2005 19:20:56 [ permanent link ]
	StephenJ was cut from the Baylor football team for saying... i'm not sure why the NBA scouts are ga-ga over this guy. He didn't dominate,>even against a mediocre-at-best Kentucky center duo, and even though the>refs were extremely generous with calls going in his favor. He looked soft. I tend to agree. However, he is a very good passer, and that's worthwhile in a big guy. Trent Chairborne "Nine of Diamonds" Ranger ...To be a great NCO, you need three bones: a backbone, a wishbone and a funny bone.
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Charles Beauchamp 26 March 2005 23:38:20 [ permanent link ]
	StephenJ wrote:> i'm not sure why the NBA scouts are ga-ga over this guy. He didn't> dominate, even against a mediocre-at-best Kentucky center duo, and> even though the refs were extremely generous with calls going in his> favor. He looked soft.> I don't think this guy is going to take over the NBA. Perhaps 9 pts> and 6 boards a night? I think you don't know squat about basketball and this is yet another example. Bogut is very athletic and BIG! Since no one has figured out how to teach tall yet, he has a genetic advantage. He is an excellent passer. He is very good at catching entry passes in the lane and either finding the open man or going to the basket. He rebounds, can block an occassional shot and is very smart on the court. All in a 7 foot tall body. That is the single most precious trait in a basketball player. The test isn't "did he dominate against a medocire at best Kentucky center duo." The test is how effective he will be doing the things you want a big man to do...and again..you obviously haven't seen the kid much if at all before last night so as in that other thread body of work matters. Bogut is the #1 player in the draft flat out. He will be an outstanding NBA player and maybe a future All-Star. -- v/r Beau "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." - Josef Stalin "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and the government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain
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Charles Beauchamp 26 March 2005 23:39:06 [ permanent link ]
	I am Jack's utter apathy wrote:> Remind me to send "Dave Reid" a red cap and a speedo...>> "StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com> wrote in>> news:fX61e.6245$TZ.1842@okepread06:>> i'm not sure why the NBA scouts are ga-ga over this guy.>> Can't teach height. Good feel for the game...good passer...great>> hands.>> Sure, he's a project, but he's a 7 footer. Hell, even Shawn>> Bradley is still in the league.>> dave>> Darko. is old enough to be barely a Sophomore in College. Darko will be an excellent NBA player. -- v/r Beau "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." - Josef Stalin "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and the government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain
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StephenJ 27 March 2005 00:00:38 [ permanent link ]
	I don't think this guy is going to take over the NBA. Perhaps 9 pts> > and 6 boards a night?> I think you don't know squat about basketball and this is yet another> example. LOL - coming from you, that's a compliment. He will be an outstanding NBA player and maybe a future All-Star. We'll see. -- "The federal judiciary is working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief over the field of jurisdiction until all shall be usurped from the States, and the government of all be consolidated into one (i.e., federalization)" - Thomas Jefferson
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Charles Beauchamp 27 March 2005 00:20:02 [ permanent link ]
	StephenJ wrote:>>> I don't think this guy is going to take over the NBA. Perhaps 9 pts>>> and 6 boards a night?>> I think you don't know squat about basketball and this is yet another>> example.> LOL - coming from you, that's a compliment.> Only because you are too stupid to know how stupid you are. -- v/r Beau "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." - Josef Stalin "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and the government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain
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StephenJ 27 March 2005 02:55:37 [ permanent link ]
	I don't think this guy is going to take over the NBA. Perhaps 9 pts> >>> and 6 boards a night?> >> I think you don't know squat about basketball and this is yet another> >> example.> > LOL - coming from you, that's a compliment.> > Only because you are too stupid LOL - coming from you, that's a compliment. -- "The federal judiciary is working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief over the field of jurisdiction until all shall be usurped from the States, and the government of all be consolidated into one (i.e., federalization)" - Thomas Jefferson
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Charles Beauchamp 27 March 2005 10:52:10 [ permanent link ]
	StephenJ wrote:>>>>> I don't think this guy is going to take over the NBA. Perhaps 9>>>>> pts and 6 boards a night?>>>> I think you don't know squat about basketball and this is yet>>>> another example.>>> LOL - coming from you, that's a compliment.>>> Only because you are too stupid> LOL - coming from you, that's a compliment. Since you are actually stupid you should feel complimented that anyone bothers to reply to you. -- v/r Beau "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." - Josef Stalin "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and the government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain
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Mr Black 27 March 2005 13:47:13 [ permanent link ]
	You judge the guy from one game? MrB "StephenJ" <cjones@corpus.com> wrote in message news:%Ze1e.7994$TZ.1496@okepread06...> i'm not sure why the NBA scouts are ga-ga over this guy. He didn't> dominate,> even against a mediocre-at-best Kentucky center duo, and even though the> refs were extremely generous with calls going in his favor. He looked soft.> I don't think this guy is going to take over the NBA. Perhaps 9 pts and 6> boards a night?>
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StephenJ 27 March 2005 18:33:39 [ permanent link ]
	LOL - coming from you, that's a compliment.> Since you are actually stupid LOL - coming from you, that's a compliment. (hint...this space reserved for more proof). -- "The federal judiciary is working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little today and a little tomorrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief over the field of jurisdiction until all shall be usurped from the States, and the government of all be consolidated into one (i.e., federalization)" - Thomas Jefferson
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Jon Enslin 28 March 2005 02:03:30 [ permanent link ]
	OrangeDood wrote:> Jon Enslin wrote:>> OrangeDood wrote:>>>>> I swore up and down at the time Darko was a stupid pick. Y'all>>>>> told me I was crazy. Bet they'd rather have Carmelo now.>>>>> Dumnasses.>>>> "Carmelo" is an interesting way to spell "Dwyane Wade.">>>> Seriously though, would either of them start for the Pistons>>>> now???>>> Surely you're not serious. Tayshaun's nice but he's not Dwyane or>>> Carmelo.>> Tayshaun would start at forward over Carmello on a Larry Brown team.> Well, Larry Brown is an idot, then.> (Defense) Dwyane would have to either unseat Richard Hamilton or>> play the point over Chauncy Billups. Brown has no great desire to>> play rookies so I doubt either would have happend.> Dwyane is not a rookie. Remember, we're talking about "would either of> them start for the Pistons now???"> Quite honestly, as much of a 'Cuse homer as I am, I would probably> take Wade over Anthony at this point, if only because of the baggage.> I would MOST CERTAINLY take either of them over Tayshaun Prince. In a vacuum yes. To play forward on a defensive oriented, championship caliber team, I'm not so sure. Jon
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Guest 28 March 2005 20:21:58 [ permanent link ]
	OrangeDood <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote:> If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five > minutes, alicamdun@yahoo.com!> Darko.>> If Detroit had passed on him, he would be starting somewhere.>> Perhaps with the Bratislava Sludge?>> The drafting of Tayshaun Prince, for the time being, is>> making Piston fans forget Darko.> I swore up and down at the time Darko was a stupid pick. Y'all told > me I was crazy. Bet they'd rather have Carmelo now. Dumnasses. Why? So he can warm the bench behind Tayshaun Prince? -- Aaron
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Guest 28 March 2005 20:22:52 [ permanent link ]
	OrangeDood <no_this_isnt@my_email.com> wrote:> If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another> five minutes, "Jon Enslin" <someone@wherever.net>! > I swore up and down at the time Darko was a stupid pick.>>>>>>> Y'all told me I was crazy. Bet they'd rather have Carmelo>>>>>>> now. Dumnasses.>>>>>> "Carmelo" is an interesting way to spell "Dwyane Wade.">>>>>> Seriously though, would either of them start for the Pistons>>>>>> now???>>>>> Surely you're not serious. Tayshaun's nice but he's not>>>>> Dwyane or Carmelo.>>>> Tayshaun would start at forward over Carmello on a Larry Brown>>>> team. >>> Well, Larry Brown is an idot, then.>>> (Defense) Dwyane would have to either unseat Richard Hamilton>>>> or play the point over Chauncy Billups. Brown has no great>>>> desire to play rookies so I doubt either would have happend.>>> Dwyane is not a rookie. Remember, we're talking about "would>>> either of them start for the Pistons now???">>> Quite honestly, as much of a 'Cuse homer as I am, I would>>> probably take Wade over Anthony at this point, if only because>>> of the baggage. I would MOST CERTAINLY take either of them over>>> Tayshaun Prince. >> In a vacuum yes. To play forward on a defensive oriented,>> championship caliber team, I'm not so sure.> I don't see the problem here. Carmelo is a better rebounder than > either Wade or Prince. People tend to forget that about him. The dude play matador defense. -- Aaron
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