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GYXU > Basketball > Just what you were waiting for ... 14 March 2005 09:04:46

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Milt Epstein 14 March 2005 09:04:46
 Hey, everybody else is doing it, so I thought I'd give it a try.
That's right, I'm going to predict the tournament field -- that is,
what teams will be getting bids. For now I'm not going to try to
predict seeds, maybe I'll add that later.

So here goes. By conference, multiple bid conferences first (in order
of how many bids per conference, then alphabetical).

Big East (6): Boston College, Connecticut, Villanova, Syracuse, West
Virginia, Pittsburgh

Big 12 (6): Kansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Texas, Iowa
State

ACC (5): North Carolina, Wake Forest, Duke, Georgia Tech, North
Carolina State

Big Ten (5): Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa, Minnesota

SEC (5): Kentucky, Alabama, LSU, Florida, Mississippi State

Pac Ten (4): Washington, Arizona, UCLA, Stanford

CUSA (3): Louisville, Cincinnati, Charlotte

MVC (3): Southern Illinois, Northern Iowa, Creighton

Big West (2): Pacific, Utah State

MAC (2): Miami OH, Ohio

MWC (2): Utah, New Mexico

WAC (2): Nevada, UTEP

WCC (2): Gonzaga, St. Mary's

And then, the one bid conferences (I'll let you figure out the
abbreviations, true college basketball fans will be able to :-)­:

AE: Vermont
ASun: Central Florida
A10: George Washington
BSky: Montana
BSth: Winthrop
CAA: Old Dominion
Ivy: Pennsylvania
Pat: Bucknell
Horz: Wisconsin Milwaukee
MAAC: Niagara
MCon: Oakland
MEAC: Delaware State
NEC: Fairleigh Dickinson
OVC: Eastern Kentucky
SB: Louisiana Lafayette
SC: Chattanooga
SWAC: Alabama A&M/Alabama State winner
Slnd: Northwestern State/SE Louisiana winner

As seems to be the tradition, I'll list my last teams in/last teams
out. I've got more than four though.

Last in: Iowa State, North Carolina State, Iowa, Minnesota, Northern
Iowa, Miami OH

Last out: Maryland, Indiana, UAB, DePaul, Wichita State, SW Missouri
State, Buffalo, Holy Cross

There you have it!

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Milt Epstein
mepstein@uiuc.edu
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Perusion Hostmaster 13 March 2005 23:39:59 permanent link ]
 On 2005-03-13, Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu>­ wrote:> Hey, everybody else is doing it, so I thought I'd give it a try.> That's right, I'm going to predict the tournament field -- that is,> what teams will be getting bids. For now I'm not going to try to> predict seeds, maybe I'll add that later.>
So here goes. By conference, multiple bid conferences first (in order> of how many bids per conference, then alphabetical).>
Big East (6): Boston College, Connecticut, Villanova, Syracuse, West> Virginia, Pittsburgh>
Big 12 (6): Kansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Texas, Iowa> State>
ACC (5): North Carolina, Wake Forest, Duke, Georgia Tech, North> Carolina State>
Big Ten (5): Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Iowa, Minnesota>
SEC (5): Kentucky, Alabama, LSU, Florida, Mississippi State>
Pac Ten (4): Washington, Arizona, UCLA, Stanford>
CUSA (3): Louisville, Cincinnati, Charlotte>
MVC (3): Southern Illinois, Northern Iowa, Creighton>
Big West (2): Pacific, Utah State>
MAC (2): Miami OH, Ohio>
MWC (2): Utah, New Mexico>
WAC (2): Nevada, UTEP>
WCC (2): Gonzaga, St. Mary's>
And then, the one bid conferences (I'll let you figure out the> abbreviations, true college basketball fans will be able to :-)­:

Exactly my bracket, save I am taking a flyer on SMS over UNI now
that you pointed them out to me.

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Milt Epstein 14 March 2005 04:25:10 permanent link ]
 Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu>­ writes:
Hey, everybody else is doing it, so I thought I'd give it a try.>That's right, I'm going to predict the tournament field -- that is,>what teams will be getting bids. For now I'm not going to try to>predict seeds, maybe I'll add that later.
[ ... ]

Well, I got only one team wrong -- Miami OH did not make it, instead
UAB did (or perhaps I should say that the committee only got one
wrong :-)­.

Not bad for a first effort, eh? Guess I should start my own
bracketology web site. How much do those guys make anyway?

(Although, to be honest, I think picking the teams this year was
relatively easy -- there didn't seem to be that many difficult
decisions.)

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Milt Epstein
mepstein@uiuc.edu
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James Gibson 14 March 2005 07:43:10 permanent link ]
 Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu>­ wrote in news:d12ll6$b2u$1
@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu>­ writes:>
Hey, everybody else is doing it, so I thought I'd give it a try.>>That's right, I'm going to predict the tournament field -- that is,>>what teams will be getting bids. For now I'm not going to try to>>predict seeds, maybe I'll add that later.> [ ... ]>
Well, I got only one team wrong -- Miami OH did not make it, instead> UAB did (or perhaps I should say that the committee only got one> wrong :-)­.>
Not bad for a first effort, eh? Guess I should start my own> bracketology web site. How much do those guys make anyway?>
(Although, to be honest, I think picking the teams this year was> relatively easy -- there didn't seem to be that many difficult> decisions.)

I don't think it's really that hard any year to pick the teams. I think
the true test of these guys is seeding. I will admit to a bad year of
2 wrong this year compared to 1 last year (2001 being the only year I
got
them all). But I've never had more than 2, in about 7 years of doing
it.
Usually, there are about 6-8 teams I feel nervous about leaving in my
field but only 2-3 teams I feel nervous about leaving out of my field.
You should start your own site. The reason I always liked Palm's site
was for his RPI calculations and easy tabulations, not for his bracket
predictions. And I'm starting to get less impressed with Lunardi every
year, especially this year when ESPN didn't even bother fixing thier RPI
ratings after the mistake was noted by everybody else doing RPI
calculations.
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Milt Epstein 14 March 2005 08:39:37 permanent link ]
 James Gibson <jgibson_hmc95@yaho­o.com> writes:
Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu>­ wrote in news:d12ll6$b2u$1>@­news.ks.uiuc.edu:
[ ... ]>> Well, I got only one team wrong -- Miami OH did not make it, instead>> UAB did (or perhaps I should say that the committee only got one>> wrong :-)­.>>
Not bad for a first effort, eh? Guess I should start my own>> bracketology web site. How much do those guys make anyway?>>
(Although, to be honest, I think picking the teams this year was>> relatively easy -- there didn't seem to be that many difficult>> decisions.)>
I don't think it's really that hard any year to pick the teams. I

Maybe you're right -- I've never really tried before, so I don't
really know how hard it would've been other years. Plus I think we
have good amounts of information here, we really have a handle on how
the committee does things.
think the true test of these guys is seeding. I will admit to a bad

I started to try to do the seeding, but pretty quickly gave up. It
didn't seem like a fun, productive way to spend time. And the
committee has, what, 10/11 guys working on it hours/days, what I am
going to do in an hour or two.
year of 2 wrong this year compared to 1 last year (2001 being the>only year I got them all). But I've never had more than 2, in about>7 years of doing it. Usually, there are about 6-8 teams I feel>nervous about leaving in my field but only 2-3 teams I feel nervous>about leaving out of my field. You should start your own site. The>reason I always liked Palm's site was for his RPI calculations and>easy tabulations, not for his bracket predictions. And I'm starting>to get less impressed with Lunardi every year, especially this year>when ESPN didn't even bother fixing thier RPI ratings after the>mistake was noted by everybody else doing RPI calculations.

Lunardi had both UAB and DePaul in. Well, he got UAB right, but I
still don't think the committee did.

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Milt Epstein
mepstein@uiuc.edu
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James Gibson 14 March 2005 08:55:28 permanent link ]
 Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu>­ wrote in news:d134i9$f7l$3
@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
James Gibson <jgibson_hmc95@yaho­o.com> writes:>
I don't think it's really that hard any year to pick the teams. I>
Maybe you're right -- I've never really tried before, so I don't> really know how hard it would've been other years. Plus I think we> have good amounts of information here, we really have a handle on how> the committee does things.

I did it in '99 (New Mexico) and '01 (Penn State) out of self-interest
to see where my teams fell. After '01, it just sort of became an
addiction, although last year is the first time I ever posted it
anywhere (not here, though).
Lunardi had both UAB and DePaul in. Well, he got UAB right, but I> still don't think the committee did.>

Did he on his final bracket? On TV this morning, he had them both out
with Iowa State, N.C. State, Northern Iowa, and Buffalo as hist last in.
I think Buffalo was the only he had wrong that was in and UAB was the
only had had wrong that was out.
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Milt Epstein 14 March 2005 09:04:46 permanent link ]
 James Gibson <jgibson_hmc95@yaho­o.com> writes:
Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu>­ wrote in news:d134i9$f7l$3>@­news.ks.uiuc.edu:>
James Gibson <jgibson_hmc95@yaho­o.com> writes:>>
I don't think it's really that hard any year to pick the teams. I>>
Maybe you're right -- I've never really tried before, so I don't>> really know how hard it would've been other years. Plus I think we>> have good amounts of information here, we really have a handle on how>> the committee does things.>
I did it in '99 (New Mexico) and '01 (Penn State) out of self-interest>to see where my teams fell. After '01, it just sort of became an>addiction, although last year is the first time I ever posted it>anywhere (not here, though).>
Lunardi had both UAB and DePaul in. Well, he got UAB right, but I>> still don't think the committee did.>
Did he on his final bracket? On TV this morning, he had them both>out with Iowa State, N.C. State, Northern Iowa, and Buffalo as hist>last in. I think Buffalo was the only he had wrong that was in and>UAB was the only had had wrong that was out.

Looks like you're right. What he's got up now (which is listed as "as
of 3/13, 6 ET") matches what you say. I was going by what was up when
I made my CUSA post, which was late last night/early this morning.
Although I'm not sure what would've changed between then and now. UAB
and DePaul didn't have anything more going for them yesterday.

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Milt Epstein
mepstein@uiuc.edu
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