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Re: CUSA teams
Milt Epstein 13 March 2005 21:08:26
	Perusion Hostmaster <nanae@nanae.perusion.com> writes: On 2005-03-13, Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu> wrote: [ ... ]>> The teams I'm looking at including instead are from the MVC and the>> MAC. Both of those conferences were about similarly rated as CUSA -->> the MVC is 7th (Sagarin) and 8th (Pomeroy's RPI), the MAC is 11th and>> 10th. So the MVC is stronger than CUSA, and the MAC slightly weaker.>> Here are the teams I'm looking at (in fact, I have these four teams>> fighting for the last two slots):>> Conf Sag RPI RPI RPI>> Team Conf Rec Rec Sag SOS RPI SOS 1-50 100+>> Wichita St. MVC 20-9 12-6 53 79 46 88 2-6 14-3>> No. Iowa MVC 21-10 11-7 40 75 39 75 2-6 14-3>> Miami OH MAC 19-10 12-6 63 73 44 82 2-2 12-3>> Buffalo MAC 22-8 11-7 72 108 43 112 1-2 16-1>> UAB CUSA 21-10 10-6 44 88 49 93 0-5 14-4>> DePaul CUSA 19-10 10-6 64 95 53 86 2-5 13-4 Figured you'd be the only one to respond -- or at least, the first . Assuming you have NC State, Texas, Iowa, and Iowa State in, this is>about how I see it. (Your mention of SMS previously makes me think they>should be on this list.) Yes, I do have all of those teams in. I like UNI and Miami OH for what the committee will pick, but your>top four are so close as to be hard to distinguish. Despite the claim>that conferences don't get bids, I think politically they won't take>4 MVC teams and one MAC team. [ ... ] I was thinking along the same lines, both in terms of which teams would get in (although it's very close), and in terms of the conference split. To me, UAB and DePaul would be the last two in of those six teams. -- Milt Epstein mepstein@uiuc.edu
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Perusion Hostmaster 14 March 2005 07:44:21 [ permanent link ]
	On 2005-03-14, James Gibson <jgibson_hmc95@yahoo.com> wrote:> I fail to really see the case for UAB, however. Their only wins of> note are over DePaul and DePaul, right at the end of the season. Beat> another bubble team twice and get in? The only think I can figure> there is that Notre Dame had quality wins, got themselves close, fell> behind DePaul on the account of DePaul winning by 11 in South Bend,> and then DePaul got behind UAB based on the 2 late season losses,> including one on a neutral court. I can't find any case for UAB, with their 0-6 against the RPI top 50. I think Buffalo or Miami/OH, the logical last two out, got screwed. But other than that, I thought the committee did a fantastic job. -- People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them. -- Dave Barry
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James Gibson 14 March 2005 08:59:45 [ permanent link ]
	Milt Epstein <mepstein@uiuc.edu> wrote in news:d1349p$f7l$2 @news.ks.uiuc.edu: I didn't even have Notre Dame that close -- their rankings (e.g.,> Sagarin, Pomeroy, RPI) were really out of range for being considered> (mid-50's to mid-70's). As for UAB, as I've already argued, and as> you concur, I just don't see any kind of case for them at all. I blame Hostmaster for my liking Notre Dame this year. After last year, when we argued about Arizona and Georgia, he got me to start thinking more about straight wins vs. RPI top 25 and top 50 and less about placing the teams vs. where they were in power ratings. Last year, I didn't like Georgia or Notre Dame and if I kept my own standards from year-to-year, I think I would have dropped out ND this year, too. I was close to taking Northern Iowa and had them ahead of Wichita State, but thought the committee would not like their opening round loss to SMS and the fact that their biggest wins were at home.
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