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you must be kidding me
Guest 22 March 2005 09:12:08
	you guys are still banging on this empty drum? I told you long ago what was real. Or maybe you didn't see the NCAA National Championship final last year. Oh, by the way, I decided to go through the fake ACC conferenece for myself recently to see what was what. I found what I always knew was true. BOGUS. Great talent. Mediocre coaching. Gee, no wonder no championships come from there. Your paper bravado has been verified.
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Boyd Nation 23 March 2005 02:49:56 [ permanent link ]
	On 21 Mar 2005 21:12:08 -0800, bill@williamkernen.com <bill@williamkernen.com> wrote: you guys are still banging on this empty drum? I told you long ago>what was real. Or maybe you didn't see the NCAA National Championship>final last year. Oh, by the way, I decided to go through the fake ACC>conferenece for myself recently to see what was what. I found what I>always knew was true. BOGUS. Great talent. Mediocre coaching. Gee,>no wonder no championships come from there. Your paper bravado has>been verified. Hi, Bill, nice to see you among the living. Might want to be careful with the revisionist version about the NCSU stint, there, although I'd honestly love to hear your side of it -- hit me in email if you don't want to air dirty laundry. Anyway, any comments on http://www.boydsworld.com/breadcrumbs/winning_bet.html, or would you just rather let that rest? -- Boyd Nation boyd.nation@mindspring.com College Baseball Columns, Links, and Ratings: http://www.boydsworld.com
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Jeffrey Hodgkinson 24 March 2005 03:08:07 [ permanent link ]
	On 21 Mar 2005 21:12:08 -0800, bill@williamkernen.com wrote: you guys are still banging on this empty drum? I told you long ago>what was real. Or maybe you didn't see the NCAA National Championship>final last year. Oh, by the way, I decided to go through the fake ACC>conferenece for myself recently to see what was what. I found what I>always knew was true. BOGUS. Great talent. Mediocre coaching. Gee,>no wonder no championships come from there. Your paper bravado has>been verified. OK, if all the ACC needed was good coaching, then how come NCSU didn't suddenly get a lot better after you joined their staff? Are you a lousy coach? I think the ACC has been down the last two years, in comparison to the years before that. I'm sure the addition of Miami will help some, however. GT has been doing much better this year so far than I expected, but I don't feel I've been banging the drum, saying they are the greatest. You are reading something into my posting that isn't there.
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Sorenson 24 March 2005 06:47:23 [ permanent link ]
	OK, if all the ACC needed was good coaching, then how come NCSU didn't> suddenly get a lot better after you joined their staff? Are you a> lousy coach?> Let me field this one. Any coach that can take a team from Division II to Division I and - in his first year - take that team of scruffs (who played on the worst field and had the worst facilities in the country) to within one out of the College World Series, must be a pretty good coach. Don't know about the assistant coaching thing.
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Wck17 25 March 2005 08:11:40 [ permanent link ]
	I guess you weren't paying attention as usual. Within one year NC State was in the Super Regional in Miami after being a nobody. Main reason--pitching. Not the least of which was Vern Sterry who I recruited from California and he became a 1st team All-American with an 11-0 record. Since I've left, they went back to oblivion. As Vern and Michael Rogers the reason it happened.
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Wck17 25 March 2005 08:20:53 [ permanent link ]
	Boyd,hello. You want the real story of that whole thing? I'd be happy to oblige if you guys really want to know. It's interesting you'd ask since I guess that means there is some story out there I don't know about. I left that mess behind me 2 years ago and never really knew about any reactions. But, for you guys, I would tell the story if you're really interested.
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Sorenson 25 March 2005 12:48:21 [ permanent link ]
	in article 277eb4e45a180ff75254260f3ee049fa@localhost.talkaboutbaseball.com, wck17 at bill@williamkernen.com wrote on 3/24/05 8:11 PM: I guess you weren't paying attention as usual. Within one year NC State> was in the Super Regional in Miami after being a nobody. Main> reason--pitching. Not the least of which was Vern Sterry who I recruited> from California and he became a 1st team All-American with an 11-0 record.> Since I've left, they went back to oblivion. As Vern and Michael Rogers> the reason it happened.> Actually, the one thing I remember is that I took a trip out to see N.C. State play at North Carolina-Greensboro (one of my favorite small stadiums in the country) in 2002, and two Wolf Pack pitchers combined to throw a no-hitter on that rainy evening. If it matters any, Coach Kernan was wearing a "NYFD" hat that night and was gracious enough to talk with me for a few minutes after the game. Still wish he was at Northridge though.
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Jeffrey Hodgkinson 25 March 2005 15:25:57 [ permanent link ]
	On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:47:23 -0800, Sorenson <ericsorenson@comcast.net> wrote: OK, if all the ACC needed was good coaching, then how come NCSU didn't>> suddenly get a lot better after you joined their staff? Are you a>> lousy coach?>> Let me field this one.> Any coach that can take a team from Division II to Division I and - in his>first year - take that team of scruffs (who played on the worst field and>had the worst facilities in the country) to within one out of the College>World Series, must be a pretty good coach.> Don't know about the assistant coaching thing. You completely missed the point. My jab at Kernen wasn't meant to imply he's a bad coach. Instead, I think he's actually an opinionated jerk who is consistently lacking in objectivity. His contempt for the ACC and east-coast baseball is no secret. When we had our "discussion" of this topic a few years ago, I carefully showed how the ACC had gained ground over the years on advancing in the CWS. He kept repeating that they had never won a title (although they came close several times) and blamed slight declines in the performance of west coast teams on them always having to play each other in regionals (which is pretty much not really a new thing). I will admit that his timing is improved, however. Last year, the ACC had a down year, and everything I've seen so far this year makes me think this year will be about the same. I'm hoping that this is simply a temporary reversal and not the beginning of a new trend. Only time will tell. In any event, ACC coaches have had their share of success, even if they haven't gotten any titles yet to show for it.
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Jeffrey Hodgkinson 25 March 2005 15:33:58 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:11:40 -0500, "wck17" <bill@williamkernen.com> wrote: I guess you weren't paying attention as usual. Within one year NC State>was in the Super Regional in Miami after being a nobody. Main>reason--pitching. Not the least of which was Vern Sterry who I recruited>from California and he became a 1st team All-American with an 11-0 record.> Since I've left, they went back to oblivion. As Vern and Michael Rogers>the reason it happened. I noticed. GT made a super-regional too, and I don't see you singing their praises. In fact, in previous discussions you've given little credence to on-field performance prior to the CWS.
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